Even though Robert Jeffress, senior pastor at the First Baptist Church in Dallas, directed his remarks against Mormonism at fellow GOP candidate Mitt Romney during the Value Voters Summit in Washington D.C. on October 7th, 2011, the "other" Mormon in the race, Jon Huntsman Jr., decided to fire back at Jeffress, taking advantage of his appearance on CNN's Situation Room on October 10th to deliver his message.
CNN host Wolf Blitzer wasted little time in cutting to the chase, leading off by asking Huntsman's opinion about the pastor's remarks. Huntsman deplored the fact that one person seems to be driving the narrative during a time when there are 15 million unemployed, two wars abroad, America's standing in the world increasingly uncertain, failing schools, and what Huntsman called "the most important election of my lifetime" looming ahead. Then Huntsman delivered the money shot, saying "The fact that some moron can stand up and make a comment like that...it's outrageous. Second of all, the fact that we are spending so much time discussing it makes it even worse." He called upon people to stick to the big issues that really matter and leave religion off the table. CNN video embedded below; segment begins almost immediately after the ad (after the jump):
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Monday, October 10, 2011
Sunday, October 9, 2011
Pastor Robert Jeffress Defends His Characterization Of Mormonism As A "Theological Cult" On The Fox News Channel; LDS Church Issues Statement
Two days after stirring up a hornet's nest by his remarks about Mormonism being non-Christian and a cult, Pastor Robert Jeffress of the First Baptist Church in Dallas was back before the cameras on Fox and Friends on Sunday October 9th, and he defended those remarks, although he apparently threw out a few signals designed to indicate that he has no personal axe to grind against members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
On Fox & Friends, Pastor Jeffress did not back down from his original remarks, and insisted that when given the choice, evangelical voters still ought to give preference to a Christian instead of someone who doesn’t embrace historical Christianity. However, Jeffress did offer a more precise definition of a cult in order to avoid conveying the image that he considered Mormons to be on the same level as the Branch Davidians or the People's Temple, who most people think of when they hear the word "cult". Jeffress said. “When I’m talking about a cult, I’m not talking about a sociological cult, but a theological cult...Mormonism was invented 1,800 years after Jesus Christ and the founding of Christianity. It has its own founder, Joseph Smith, its own set of doctrines and even its own book, the Book of Mormon, in addition to the Bible. That by definition is a theological cult.” Fox News video after the jump:
On Fox & Friends, Pastor Jeffress did not back down from his original remarks, and insisted that when given the choice, evangelical voters still ought to give preference to a Christian instead of someone who doesn’t embrace historical Christianity. However, Jeffress did offer a more precise definition of a cult in order to avoid conveying the image that he considered Mormons to be on the same level as the Branch Davidians or the People's Temple, who most people think of when they hear the word "cult". Jeffress said. “When I’m talking about a cult, I’m not talking about a sociological cult, but a theological cult...Mormonism was invented 1,800 years after Jesus Christ and the founding of Christianity. It has its own founder, Joseph Smith, its own set of doctrines and even its own book, the Book of Mormon, in addition to the Bible. That by definition is a theological cult.” Fox News video after the jump:
Friday, October 7, 2011
Texas Baptist Pastor Robert Jeffress Criticizes Mitt Romney's Mormonism As "Not Christian"; Rick Perry Quickly Disavows Remarks
Update October 10th: Pastor Robert Jeffress reaffirmed his statements on October 9th, and Jon Huntsman Jr. weighed in on October 10th.
Robert Jeffress, senior pastor at the 10,000 member First Baptist Church in Dallas, is at it again. At a Value Voters summit in Washington, D.C. on October 7th, 2011, Jeffress referred to Mitt Romney's Mormonism as a "cult". And it's not the first time.
Pastor Jeffress was in attendance to introduce Republican Presidential candidate Rick Perry before his speech to the group. He did not make the reference during his introduction, when he merely characterized Perry as a proven leader, a true conservative, and a committed follower of Christ. But in remarks to the media after the event, Jeffress said "Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ...Mitt Romney's a good moral person, but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity." He also told reporters that being a fine person with a great family and great values does not get you to heaven.
Interesting that he had nothing to say about the other Mormon presidential candidate, Jon Huntsman Jr.
Pastor Jeffress also put forth his definition of "Christian". He explained, “It is only faith in Jesus Christ, in Jesus Christ alone, that qualifies you as a Christian...They embraced another gospel, the Book of Mormon, and that is why they have never been considered by evangelical Christians to be part of the Christian family.” Of course, Pastor Jeffress fails to understand that the Book of Mormon stands ALONGSIDE the Bible as the equally authoritative word of God, and does NOT supersede the Bible. Jeffress did add that if Romney wins the nomination, he will "hold his nose" and vote for him. He said he would rather have a non-Christian who embraces Christian principles in the White House than a professing Christian who governs by unbiblical principles. He believes that although Barack Obama is a professing Christian, Obama governs by unbiblical principles. Thanks to Think Progress, we have a video recording some of the pastor's remarks:
Even though Pastor Jeffress was at the summit at the behest of the Value Voters rather than Rick Perry, Perry immediately took action to disavow Jeffress' remarks. Perry spokesman Mark Miner initially explained, “The governor doesn’t judge what is in the heart and soul of others. He leaves that to God.” Minutes later, Miner came back and flatly stated, "The governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult". I cannot recall a single instance during this campaign so far when Rick Perry ever made any reference to Mitt Romney's religion.
Ironically, it was just this past Sunday, on October 2nd, that Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve addressed this very subject during the 181st Semiannual General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He provides a powerful justification of why we consider ourselves Christian. You can read the transcript of the address HERE, or watch it on the video embedded below:
You can also read an official explanation from the LDS Church as to why Mormons are Christians.
Pastor Robert Jeffress has previously criticized Romney for his Mormonism in 2007 and again in 2008. And Jeffress has also been critical of Islam; in August 2010, Jeffress claimed that Islam “promotes pedophilia” and that violence by Muslims is in accordance with what the Quran teaches because it’s a violent religion. Islam neither promotes pedophilia, nor is it violent by default, although the Quran encourages Muslims to defend their faith by force if necessary.
Robert Jeffress, senior pastor at the 10,000 member First Baptist Church in Dallas, is at it again. At a Value Voters summit in Washington, D.C. on October 7th, 2011, Jeffress referred to Mitt Romney's Mormonism as a "cult". And it's not the first time.
Pastor Jeffress was in attendance to introduce Republican Presidential candidate Rick Perry before his speech to the group. He did not make the reference during his introduction, when he merely characterized Perry as a proven leader, a true conservative, and a committed follower of Christ. But in remarks to the media after the event, Jeffress said "Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ...Mitt Romney's a good moral person, but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity." He also told reporters that being a fine person with a great family and great values does not get you to heaven.
Interesting that he had nothing to say about the other Mormon presidential candidate, Jon Huntsman Jr.
Pastor Jeffress also put forth his definition of "Christian". He explained, “It is only faith in Jesus Christ, in Jesus Christ alone, that qualifies you as a Christian...They embraced another gospel, the Book of Mormon, and that is why they have never been considered by evangelical Christians to be part of the Christian family.” Of course, Pastor Jeffress fails to understand that the Book of Mormon stands ALONGSIDE the Bible as the equally authoritative word of God, and does NOT supersede the Bible. Jeffress did add that if Romney wins the nomination, he will "hold his nose" and vote for him. He said he would rather have a non-Christian who embraces Christian principles in the White House than a professing Christian who governs by unbiblical principles. He believes that although Barack Obama is a professing Christian, Obama governs by unbiblical principles. Thanks to Think Progress, we have a video recording some of the pastor's remarks:
Even though Pastor Jeffress was at the summit at the behest of the Value Voters rather than Rick Perry, Perry immediately took action to disavow Jeffress' remarks. Perry spokesman Mark Miner initially explained, “The governor doesn’t judge what is in the heart and soul of others. He leaves that to God.” Minutes later, Miner came back and flatly stated, "The governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult". I cannot recall a single instance during this campaign so far when Rick Perry ever made any reference to Mitt Romney's religion.
Ironically, it was just this past Sunday, on October 2nd, that Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve addressed this very subject during the 181st Semiannual General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He provides a powerful justification of why we consider ourselves Christian. You can read the transcript of the address HERE, or watch it on the video embedded below:
You can also read an official explanation from the LDS Church as to why Mormons are Christians.
Pastor Robert Jeffress has previously criticized Romney for his Mormonism in 2007 and again in 2008. And Jeffress has also been critical of Islam; in August 2010, Jeffress claimed that Islam “promotes pedophilia” and that violence by Muslims is in accordance with what the Quran teaches because it’s a violent religion. Islam neither promotes pedophilia, nor is it violent by default, although the Quran encourages Muslims to defend their faith by force if necessary.
Thursday, May 21, 2009
Newsflash: Marie Osmond Still Loves Her Lesbian Daughter Because She's A Mormon; Mormonism Does Not Require Hatred
The entertainment media is making a big deal over the fact that Marie Osmond's eldest daughter, Jessica, has been outed as a lesbian. But one of the more frustrating issues is that the entertainment media seems to be implying that Marie must choose between her religion and her daughter.
One report by Digital Spy is entitled, "Osmond not ashamed of gay daughter". Another report by StarPulse is entitled, "Marie Osmond: I Don't Care That My Daughter Is Gay". And yet another report by Monsters and Critics is misleadingly titled "Marie Osmond bucks Mormon Church teachings, proud of Gay daughter"
Bucks Mormon Church teachings? Show me any statement by any General Authority at any time that says "You must hate your children if they become gay". There is none. Marie Osmond is not required to choose between her daughter and her religion. On Entertainment Tonight, one of the few entertainment media outlets that even pretends to respectability, Marie speaks out on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JLbJDM-Jnk
According to the Kansas City Star, the controversy began earlier this month when Marie Osmond confirmed to a Los Angeles radio station that her daughter is a lesbian and spoke out supportively on same-sex marriage, classifying it as a civil right. Osmond also said, "When you start mixing religion into that and beliefs, you know, I do believe in the Bible. My daughter understands my beliefs. And, you know, God said to be married and be productive with your children and, you know, replenish the earth or whatever. She understands those things. My daughter is sharp. And we have a great relationship and I think she would tell you that." She reiterated that her Mormon faith did not keep her from loving her daughter, given her sexual orientation.
What the LDS Church teaches about homosexuality is simple. Homosexuality is a form of sexual misconduct just like fornication (sex by single people), adultery, pedophilia, bestiality, or chronic masturbation. The practice of homosexuality can lead to excommunication, just like the practice of other forms of sexual misconduct. However, a mere homosexual orientation alone will not result in any sanction whatsoever. A celibate homosexual remains a member in good standing, meaning a premium membership replete with temple recommend.
Of course, some critics will claim it's not fair that a homosexual must remain celibate to remain a full member of the Church. However, is it also fair that a single heterosexual must also remain celibate to be a full member? Is it fair that a guy in a wheelchair can't run, jump, and play basketball? Is it fair that a Third Wordl peasant cannot become a First World CEO? Guess what - life wasn't intended to be fair. The "fairness" comes after the fact; namely, after we die. Then all unpaid balances will be reconciled. Of course, to believe that requires faith. We Mormons don't ask that you share that faith. But we Mormons won't let you hold us hostage to your lack of faith and browbeat us into changing our doctrine simply because you don't share our faith.
But the LDS Church does NOT teach that you cannot love other people if they sin. The bottom line - Marie Osmond can love her lesbian daughter and still remain faithful to Mormonism, just as God continues to love us although He frequently grits his teeth at what we do. It's time to get off Marie Osmond's back.
One report by Digital Spy is entitled, "Osmond not ashamed of gay daughter". Another report by StarPulse is entitled, "Marie Osmond: I Don't Care That My Daughter Is Gay". And yet another report by Monsters and Critics is misleadingly titled "Marie Osmond bucks Mormon Church teachings, proud of Gay daughter"
Bucks Mormon Church teachings? Show me any statement by any General Authority at any time that says "You must hate your children if they become gay". There is none. Marie Osmond is not required to choose between her daughter and her religion. On Entertainment Tonight, one of the few entertainment media outlets that even pretends to respectability, Marie speaks out on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JLbJDM-Jnk
According to the Kansas City Star, the controversy began earlier this month when Marie Osmond confirmed to a Los Angeles radio station that her daughter is a lesbian and spoke out supportively on same-sex marriage, classifying it as a civil right. Osmond also said, "When you start mixing religion into that and beliefs, you know, I do believe in the Bible. My daughter understands my beliefs. And, you know, God said to be married and be productive with your children and, you know, replenish the earth or whatever. She understands those things. My daughter is sharp. And we have a great relationship and I think she would tell you that." She reiterated that her Mormon faith did not keep her from loving her daughter, given her sexual orientation.
What the LDS Church teaches about homosexuality is simple. Homosexuality is a form of sexual misconduct just like fornication (sex by single people), adultery, pedophilia, bestiality, or chronic masturbation. The practice of homosexuality can lead to excommunication, just like the practice of other forms of sexual misconduct. However, a mere homosexual orientation alone will not result in any sanction whatsoever. A celibate homosexual remains a member in good standing, meaning a premium membership replete with temple recommend.
Of course, some critics will claim it's not fair that a homosexual must remain celibate to remain a full member of the Church. However, is it also fair that a single heterosexual must also remain celibate to be a full member? Is it fair that a guy in a wheelchair can't run, jump, and play basketball? Is it fair that a Third Wordl peasant cannot become a First World CEO? Guess what - life wasn't intended to be fair. The "fairness" comes after the fact; namely, after we die. Then all unpaid balances will be reconciled. Of course, to believe that requires faith. We Mormons don't ask that you share that faith. But we Mormons won't let you hold us hostage to your lack of faith and browbeat us into changing our doctrine simply because you don't share our faith.
But the LDS Church does NOT teach that you cannot love other people if they sin. The bottom line - Marie Osmond can love her lesbian daughter and still remain faithful to Mormonism, just as God continues to love us although He frequently grits his teeth at what we do. It's time to get off Marie Osmond's back.
Sunday, December 28, 2008
Focus On The Family Rolls Over For Underground Apologetics, Removes Glenn Beck Article About "The Christmas Sweater" From Its Citizen Link Website
Update December 29th: Focus on the Family moves to dampen criticism, asserts that they intended no insult to Mormons. Updated information posted in green.
On December 27th, 2008, the Mormon Times reports that the influential and prestigious pro-family lobby Focus on the Family has inexplicably caved in to pressure from a marginal group called Underground Apologetics and and pulled from its CitizenLink website an article about talk show host Glenn Beck's book "The Christmas Sweater". Underground Apologetics complained that Beck's LDS faith is a "cult" and "false religion" and shouldn't be promoted by a Christian ministry. Predictably, many Latter-day Saints are outraged; a lead-in story published by the Deseret News has already attracted 208 public comments. The Christian Post and Media Bistro also published stories.
Significant blog reaction from StopTheMormons and SimpleUtahMormonPolitics, whose editor has already read the book and discusses his impressions.
When contacted, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs, CO confirmed that the article had been pulled and read a prepared statement for callers who had called about the Beck article:
Focus's answers to other questions was originally to be delayed until January 2nd. However, recognizing the potential for the erosion of Mormon-Evangelical ties, the leadership of Focus decided not to wait until January 2nd to follow up. On December 29th, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that Gary Schneeberger, vice president of media and public relations for Focus on the Family, said that "differences in the Mormon faith and the historical evangelical faith are not inconsequential." He further stated, "We can, and do, gladly cooperate with friends outside of the evangelical heritage on common causes; but in no case do we intend to alter our clear distinction as unwaveringly grounded in evangelical theology."
Schneeberger said the criticism from Underground Apologetics had "nothing to do with our decision to pull the article from publication" but admitted that "some from our base" were concerned that the interview aimed to signal theological compromise. "We regret having communicated in a way that has caused some confusion both from some within our evangelical base as well as from our friends, like Mr. Beck, who hold a sincere and devout Mormon faith," Schneeberger said. "We intended no insult; we merely miscalculated on how best to feature Glenn."
The LDS Church has wisely refrained from any comment on the matter. As for Glenn Beck, he has since posted the following statement on his website:
Triggering the controversy was a marginal group called Underground Apologetics. On December 22nd, after learning of the Beck article, they issued a release through Christian News Wire which read:
Underground Apologetics president Steve McConkey said in an interview that he had not read Beck's book, but understood its message. He felt that the work was suspect based on what he understands about Beck's faith. McConkey said he had not asked Dobson's ministry to remove the article from its site. An examination of Underground Apologetics website reveals that Mormons aren't the only ones in their crosshairs; they take cheap shots at Rick Warren and Franklin Graham as well. I guess they have their own private definition of Christianity about which no one else knows.
Because the Glenn Beck article is no longer available at citizenlink.org, the Mormon Times has republished it as part of their story. Here is also a link to an Amazon.com video about the book. Since the debut of Beck’s The Christmas Sweater six weeks ago, the 284-page hardcover has not only hit the New York Times Best-Sellers List but has also climbed up to No. 1 multiple times. In addition, a “living play” of the book also debuted in 420 movie theaters nationwide last week featuring theatrical animation, specially-created projections and a Christmas musical score from a 10-piece orchestra and Broadway gospel singer.
Based on a personal true story, The Christmas Sweater is a narrative of a boy named Eddie who embarks on a dark and painful journey on the road to manhood.
How should Latter-day Saints react to this development? Go back and read Glenn Beck's response - this best reflects how we should handle it. While it's regrettable that Focus on the Family deleted the article and acknowledged doctrinal differences, note that they did NOT refer to Mormonism as a cult or un-Christian. Thus we should not allow this incident to discolor our attitude towards Focus on the Family, which was a valuable partner to us in successfully promoting California Proposition 8 and which has worked hard for many years to promote pro-family values, reverse elective abortion, and stymie the relentless promotion and protection of the homosexual lifestyle. Focus on the Family remains one of the "good guys"; let's blow this off as a fluke. To attack Focus on the Family would risk severing the growing ties between Mormons and Evanglicals.
However, Underground Apologetics is not worthy of such consideration. They don't merely attack Mormonism; they attack other Christian pastors who do not share their point of view. There's little evidence on their cheesy, clunky website that they've taken any issue with the major social issues of the day. Their very name implies that they're a bunch of attention-starved insurgents who ought not to be taken seriously.
On December 27th, 2008, the Mormon Times reports that the influential and prestigious pro-family lobby Focus on the Family has inexplicably caved in to pressure from a marginal group called Underground Apologetics and and pulled from its CitizenLink website an article about talk show host Glenn Beck's book "The Christmas Sweater". Underground Apologetics complained that Beck's LDS faith is a "cult" and "false religion" and shouldn't be promoted by a Christian ministry. Predictably, many Latter-day Saints are outraged; a lead-in story published by the Deseret News has already attracted 208 public comments. The Christian Post and Media Bistro also published stories.
Significant blog reaction from StopTheMormons and SimpleUtahMormonPolitics, whose editor has already read the book and discusses his impressions.
When contacted, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs, CO confirmed that the article had been pulled and read a prepared statement for callers who had called about the Beck article:
"You are correct to note that Mr. Beck is a member of the Mormon church, and that we did not make mention of this fact in our interview with him. We do recognize the deep theological difference between evangelical theology and Mormon theology, and it would have been prudent for us at least to have pointed out these differences. Because of the confusion, we have removed the interview from CitizenLink."
Focus's answers to other questions was originally to be delayed until January 2nd. However, recognizing the potential for the erosion of Mormon-Evangelical ties, the leadership of Focus decided not to wait until January 2nd to follow up. On December 29th, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that Gary Schneeberger, vice president of media and public relations for Focus on the Family, said that "differences in the Mormon faith and the historical evangelical faith are not inconsequential." He further stated, "We can, and do, gladly cooperate with friends outside of the evangelical heritage on common causes; but in no case do we intend to alter our clear distinction as unwaveringly grounded in evangelical theology."
Schneeberger said the criticism from Underground Apologetics had "nothing to do with our decision to pull the article from publication" but admitted that "some from our base" were concerned that the interview aimed to signal theological compromise. "We regret having communicated in a way that has caused some confusion both from some within our evangelical base as well as from our friends, like Mr. Beck, who hold a sincere and devout Mormon faith," Schneeberger said. "We intended no insult; we merely miscalculated on how best to feature Glenn."
The LDS Church has wisely refrained from any comment on the matter. As for Glenn Beck, he has since posted the following statement on his website:
"The Christmas Sweater is a story about the idea of Christmas as a time for redemption and atonement. Whatever your beliefs about my religion, the concept of religious tolerance is too important to be sacrificed in response to pressure from special interest groups, especially when it means bowing to censorship. I'm humbled and grateful that hundreds of thousands of people from different faiths have read the book and have appreciated its uplifting message for themselves. At a time when the world is so full of fear, despair, and divisions, it is my hope that all of those who believe in a loving and peaceful God would stand together on the universal message of hope and forgiveness".
Triggering the controversy was a marginal group called Underground Apologetics. On December 22nd, after learning of the Beck article, they issued a release through Christian News Wire which read:
"Focus on the Family has a story on Glenn Beck, a Mormon, on their CitizenLink Web site. Glenn Beck was a CNN host and will move to Fox News in January. Beck is currently promoting his book, 'The Christmas Sweater.' The CitizenLink story focuses on Beck's faith and why he wrote 'The Christmas Sweater.'
"While Glenn's social views are compatible with many Christian views, his beliefs in Mormonism are not. Clearly, Mormonism is a cult. The CitizenLink story does not mention Beck's Mormon faith, however, the story makes it look as if Beck is a Christian who believes in the essential doctrines of the faith.
"Through the years, Focus on the Family has done great things to help the family and has brought attention to the many social ills that are attacking the family. However, to promote a Mormon as a Christian is not helpful to the cause of Jesus Christ. For Christians to influence society, Christians should be promoting the central issues of the faith properly without opening the door to false religions".
Underground Apologetics president Steve McConkey said in an interview that he had not read Beck's book, but understood its message. He felt that the work was suspect based on what he understands about Beck's faith. McConkey said he had not asked Dobson's ministry to remove the article from its site. An examination of Underground Apologetics website reveals that Mormons aren't the only ones in their crosshairs; they take cheap shots at Rick Warren and Franklin Graham as well. I guess they have their own private definition of Christianity about which no one else knows.
Because the Glenn Beck article is no longer available at citizenlink.org, the Mormon Times has republished it as part of their story. Here is also a link to an Amazon.com video about the book. Since the debut of Beck’s The Christmas Sweater six weeks ago, the 284-page hardcover has not only hit the New York Times Best-Sellers List but has also climbed up to No. 1 multiple times. In addition, a “living play” of the book also debuted in 420 movie theaters nationwide last week featuring theatrical animation, specially-created projections and a Christmas musical score from a 10-piece orchestra and Broadway gospel singer.
Based on a personal true story, The Christmas Sweater is a narrative of a boy named Eddie who embarks on a dark and painful journey on the road to manhood.
How should Latter-day Saints react to this development? Go back and read Glenn Beck's response - this best reflects how we should handle it. While it's regrettable that Focus on the Family deleted the article and acknowledged doctrinal differences, note that they did NOT refer to Mormonism as a cult or un-Christian. Thus we should not allow this incident to discolor our attitude towards Focus on the Family, which was a valuable partner to us in successfully promoting California Proposition 8 and which has worked hard for many years to promote pro-family values, reverse elective abortion, and stymie the relentless promotion and protection of the homosexual lifestyle. Focus on the Family remains one of the "good guys"; let's blow this off as a fluke. To attack Focus on the Family would risk severing the growing ties between Mormons and Evanglicals.
However, Underground Apologetics is not worthy of such consideration. They don't merely attack Mormonism; they attack other Christian pastors who do not share their point of view. There's little evidence on their cheesy, clunky website that they've taken any issue with the major social issues of the day. Their very name implies that they're a bunch of attention-starved insurgents who ought not to be taken seriously.
Sunday, September 7, 2008
YouTube Video: CNN's Glenn Beck Explains Why He Became A Latter-day Saint, And How It Changed His Life And Led Him To Fame
While I enjoy giving you, the reader, my best take on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), sometimes I like to use others to help tell the story. And one of the better storytellers is the now-famous CNN talk-show host, Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck's website is HERE, his CNN Page is HERE, and you can read a Wikipedia account of his life HERE.
Beck wasn't always famous. At one point, his admittedly dissolute party animal lifestyle had cost him opportunities. Eventually, he couldn't even get an agent. Then, a friend twisted his arm to attend an LDS service. Just this one time, only - you owe me that much after all we've been through, the friend said. So, to humor his friend, Beck agreed. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USpeolBTKIo
But even after he attended the first time, it took both his wife and his daughter to get him to return. Even before he married, his wife insisted upon him finding a religious home for them as part of the deal. But after they left the church service, one of his daughters asked him if they could go back the following Sunday, stating that it gave her a warm feeling inside.
Becoming a Mormon didn't bring Glenn Beck success; changing his destructive behavior did. But what was the catalyst triggering the behavioral change? His family? Certainly, he was aware of his familial responsibilities, and sought to live up to them. But it was the Church that gave him the spiritual foundation and strength of character necessary to make those changes lasting and parlay them into temporal success.
Beck wasn't always famous. At one point, his admittedly dissolute party animal lifestyle had cost him opportunities. Eventually, he couldn't even get an agent. Then, a friend twisted his arm to attend an LDS service. Just this one time, only - you owe me that much after all we've been through, the friend said. So, to humor his friend, Beck agreed. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USpeolBTKIo
But even after he attended the first time, it took both his wife and his daughter to get him to return. Even before he married, his wife insisted upon him finding a religious home for them as part of the deal. But after they left the church service, one of his daughters asked him if they could go back the following Sunday, stating that it gave her a warm feeling inside.
Becoming a Mormon didn't bring Glenn Beck success; changing his destructive behavior did. But what was the catalyst triggering the behavioral change? His family? Certainly, he was aware of his familial responsibilities, and sought to live up to them. But it was the Church that gave him the spiritual foundation and strength of character necessary to make those changes lasting and parlay them into temporal success.
Monday, August 25, 2008
The LDS Word Of Wisdom Wasn't Just A Warning Against Harmful Substances, But Also Against Deceptive Advertising
Many of you are familiar with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints health code, known as the Word of Wisdom. It was revealed to the first president of the Church, Joseph Smith in 1833, and subsequently incorporated into the Doctrine and Covenants as Section 89.
But while the health aspects of the Word of Wisdom are well-known, what's less publicized is the fact that Joseph Smith actually warned us against the deceptive and persuasive advertising which would be used to make these substances attractive to people. Here's the applicable part of Section 89 below:
First, let's look at verse 2. It states that the Word of Wisdom is sent by greeting rather than by commandment or restraint. What does that really mean? When Mormons sit for worthiness interviews from their priesthood chain of command, whether it be for a temple recommend, for mission service, or to accept a higher office within the Priesthood, they are asked if they observe the Word of Wisdom. If the answer is No, then the person will be denied the desired opportunity until he is in compliance. However, the individual will NOT be subject to formal Church discipline.
And therein lies the difference. If you break an actual commandment, such as adultery, you can be subject to Church discipline, which can result in probation, disfellowshipment, or excommunication. However, breaking the Word of Wisdom, since it's not a commandment, merely results in denial of a particular privilege, such as a temple recommend.
Now look at verse 4. This is where the warning against advertising is delivered. And it's definitely come to pass. Advertisers motivated by pure amoral profit show macho men and demure women consuming alcohol and tobacco in an effort to make these substances appear more desirable. Remember the "Marlboro Man"? A macho cowboy. What they didn't show were career smokers hospitalized with lung cancer or hacking their lungs out with COPD. They don't look very macho. Joseph Smith apparently foresaw this, and incorporated this into Section 89.
And finally, the health code itself. Remember, Joseph Smith received and delivered the revelation in 1833, and it is worded in context with the references of the time. As references changed and new substances were invented and marketed, various General Authorities issued subsequent supplemental guidance to keep the Word of Wisdom contemporary. Consequently, the harmful substances identified in Section 89 have been further defined as follows:
(1). Strong drink - any alcoholic beverage. This includes alcopops and 3.2 beer.
(2). Tobacco - any form of tobacco, smokable, chewable, or sniffable.
(3). Hot drinks - formally defined to mean coffee and tea. Decaffinated coffee and tea is O.K.
In addition, the General Authorities have since declared that the consumption of caffeinated soda and recreational drug usage also constitute violations of the Word of Wisdom. LightPlanet.com provides some more guidance. You can also read more authoritative Church guidance HERE.
The consumption of meat is authorized by the Word of Wisdom. However, Mormons are directed to use meat sparingly, since it requires that we take an animal's life. A diet rich in meat actually contributes towards obesity and other health problems. Those who really want to go the extra mile would consume meat only during times of cold weather or scarcity of grains and fruit. Don't forget, the Lord provided the ancient Israelites with BOTH manna AND quail. But Mormons aren't asked about meat consumption during a worthiness interview.
Compliance with the Word of Wisdom is required to be accepted for membership in the LDS Church in the first place, and to retain full membership privileges once in the system.
But while the health aspects of the Word of Wisdom are well-known, what's less publicized is the fact that Joseph Smith actually warned us against the deceptive and persuasive advertising which would be used to make these substances attractive to people. Here's the applicable part of Section 89 below:
1 A Word Of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.
4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
5 That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
7 And, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
8 And again, tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome herbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with prudence and thanksgiving.
12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.
First, let's look at verse 2. It states that the Word of Wisdom is sent by greeting rather than by commandment or restraint. What does that really mean? When Mormons sit for worthiness interviews from their priesthood chain of command, whether it be for a temple recommend, for mission service, or to accept a higher office within the Priesthood, they are asked if they observe the Word of Wisdom. If the answer is No, then the person will be denied the desired opportunity until he is in compliance. However, the individual will NOT be subject to formal Church discipline.
And therein lies the difference. If you break an actual commandment, such as adultery, you can be subject to Church discipline, which can result in probation, disfellowshipment, or excommunication. However, breaking the Word of Wisdom, since it's not a commandment, merely results in denial of a particular privilege, such as a temple recommend.
Now look at verse 4. This is where the warning against advertising is delivered. And it's definitely come to pass. Advertisers motivated by pure amoral profit show macho men and demure women consuming alcohol and tobacco in an effort to make these substances appear more desirable. Remember the "Marlboro Man"? A macho cowboy. What they didn't show were career smokers hospitalized with lung cancer or hacking their lungs out with COPD. They don't look very macho. Joseph Smith apparently foresaw this, and incorporated this into Section 89.
And finally, the health code itself. Remember, Joseph Smith received and delivered the revelation in 1833, and it is worded in context with the references of the time. As references changed and new substances were invented and marketed, various General Authorities issued subsequent supplemental guidance to keep the Word of Wisdom contemporary. Consequently, the harmful substances identified in Section 89 have been further defined as follows:
(1). Strong drink - any alcoholic beverage. This includes alcopops and 3.2 beer.
(2). Tobacco - any form of tobacco, smokable, chewable, or sniffable.
(3). Hot drinks - formally defined to mean coffee and tea. Decaffinated coffee and tea is O.K.
In addition, the General Authorities have since declared that the consumption of caffeinated soda and recreational drug usage also constitute violations of the Word of Wisdom. LightPlanet.com provides some more guidance. You can also read more authoritative Church guidance HERE.
The consumption of meat is authorized by the Word of Wisdom. However, Mormons are directed to use meat sparingly, since it requires that we take an animal's life. A diet rich in meat actually contributes towards obesity and other health problems. Those who really want to go the extra mile would consume meat only during times of cold weather or scarcity of grains and fruit. Don't forget, the Lord provided the ancient Israelites with BOTH manna AND quail. But Mormons aren't asked about meat consumption during a worthiness interview.
Compliance with the Word of Wisdom is required to be accepted for membership in the LDS Church in the first place, and to retain full membership privileges once in the system.
Introduction To "Mormonism Unveiled"
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I find that, 178 years after the official establishment of the LDS Church, there remains an astonishing amount of misunderstanding regarding the Church. This misunderstanding may have hindered Mitt Romney's Presidential campaign and contributed to what I still consider his premature exit from the race. Another example presents itself in the Anchorage Daily News' Church Visits blog, edited by Chris Thompson. He somehow got the idea that he would be restricted to visiting a particular LDS ward before becoming a member, although visitors are welcome at any LDS ward.
At best, this misunderstanding frustrates honest skeptics who are not necessarily ill-disposed towards the Church, but who fail to understand what it's all about because frequently we have differing definitions for the same terms.
At worst, this misunderstanding provides undeserved opportunities for hard core anti-Mormons to deliberately defame Mormonism and mislead the general public. The most prominent hard core anti-Mormons are generally former LDS who either left of their own accord under hostile circumstances, or were excommunicated for cause. Instead of accepting the decision like a responsible adult and finding an alternative better serving the dictates of their own consciences, they seek to wage war against the Church because they feel they have a "duty" to "expose" Mormonism. These are the only true enemies of the Church, not the honest skeptic who has legitimate doubts.
However, in reading a certain amount of "anti-Mormon" literature, I find that the antis occasionally bring forth points which need to be addressed. Many antis complain that they were "hustled" into the Church with the doctrines of faith, repentance, baptism, and laying on of hands, but didn't find out about the Church's more uncommon doctrines, such as plurality of Gods and temple ceremonies, until after they were brought into the system. This is a legitimate gripe which needs to be addressed.
In short, I, as a Latter-day Saint, want YOU, the prospective convert to know what you are buying into BEFORE you plunge into the waters of baptism. Mormonism is not for everybody, but it may be for YOU. But I believe you should know as much as possible before accepting it. It is worthwhile, if your mind and spirit are right before you make the decision.
The LDS Church operates two primary websites. Mormon.org is primarily an informational website, focusing on doctrines and practices. LDS.org is the official Church website, where decisions are announced and news releases posted.
At best, this misunderstanding frustrates honest skeptics who are not necessarily ill-disposed towards the Church, but who fail to understand what it's all about because frequently we have differing definitions for the same terms.
At worst, this misunderstanding provides undeserved opportunities for hard core anti-Mormons to deliberately defame Mormonism and mislead the general public. The most prominent hard core anti-Mormons are generally former LDS who either left of their own accord under hostile circumstances, or were excommunicated for cause. Instead of accepting the decision like a responsible adult and finding an alternative better serving the dictates of their own consciences, they seek to wage war against the Church because they feel they have a "duty" to "expose" Mormonism. These are the only true enemies of the Church, not the honest skeptic who has legitimate doubts.
However, in reading a certain amount of "anti-Mormon" literature, I find that the antis occasionally bring forth points which need to be addressed. Many antis complain that they were "hustled" into the Church with the doctrines of faith, repentance, baptism, and laying on of hands, but didn't find out about the Church's more uncommon doctrines, such as plurality of Gods and temple ceremonies, until after they were brought into the system. This is a legitimate gripe which needs to be addressed.
In short, I, as a Latter-day Saint, want YOU, the prospective convert to know what you are buying into BEFORE you plunge into the waters of baptism. Mormonism is not for everybody, but it may be for YOU. But I believe you should know as much as possible before accepting it. It is worthwhile, if your mind and spirit are right before you make the decision.
The LDS Church operates two primary websites. Mormon.org is primarily an informational website, focusing on doctrines and practices. LDS.org is the official Church website, where decisions are announced and news releases posted.
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